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I am good at the type of retail I do, generally. There’s a very quick window in which to read someone before deciding how to talk to them and what cheese to recommend. There are any number of clues, of course, even disregarding the obvious cheese customer profiles which are really about class (and race) anyway.

I didn’t actually read the first guy wrong so much as it was early and I stumbled over my own words. He was part of a gay couple and they were shopping for brunch. We had only been open for an hour and he was the fourth man I’d seen wearing a "England" sweatshirt. So I said, "hey, why is everyone wearing England sweatshirts today? Is it a World Cup thing?"

The look on his face told me what I needed to know. Not only did he not follow the World Cup but I had just told him his sweatshirt was unoriginal, non-fabulous, and trendy among heterosexuals. I overcompensated by giving him and his boyfriend extra cheese samples.

My next mis-read happened almost imediately. A het couple came in and the man was doing the talking. They were looking for a picnic brie so I recommended the Fromager D’affinois, a factory-made cheese but a good one. It’s mild and super oozy. It was the wrong guess.

As the Specialty Cheese Shop Manual tells us, "The major customers of specialty cheese shops are the higher educated, more affluent and better traveled members of the community – in short, the leaders." (SCSM 1981) Now, I don’t care about that kind of profile, but sometimes the customers do. There’s a status some attach to their cheese purposes, not surprising in a country where consumer identity is so strong that about all the left can do is be a social force for making people feel guilty about their purchases (but that’s another entry).

It was like I slapped him. He didn’t say anything, but I could tell he was insulted by being offered a factory made cheese instead of a handmade one. "No, I think we’ll go with the Brie de Meaux," he said, letting me know I knew less than he did and cutting off the conversation. . Of course, in this country it’s actual name is Fromage de Meaux because it’s not made with raw milk, but ignore that.

The above description sounds nastier than it actually was. He was fairly subtle really, but I’ve worked with the public long enough to recognize it. Back when I was younger and punker customers would just outwardly show disdain, now I have to read the clues. It was just that one wrong guess can ruin your credibility to some folks. Sure, no great loss on a personal level. But I had lots of fancy cheese to sell the guy if I had guessed right.

Some retail days are like that. For the rest of the day I just gave out samples and let the cheese do most of the talking.

The Church Of Gordonzola

Date: 2006-06-12 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahshevett.livejournal.com
There’s a status some attach to their cheese purposes, not surprising in a country where consumer identity is so strong that about all the left can do is be a social force for making people feel guilty about their purchases (but that’s another entry).

See,
that's what I am talking about. You so rock.
I bow down in your presence.

I can't even comment.

Re: The Church Of Gordonzola

Date: 2006-06-13 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
Thank you. but you know none of it is possible without the farmers.

Re: The Church Of Gordonzola

Date: 2006-06-13 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahshevett.livejournal.com
The guilt, you mean?

Date: 2006-06-12 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] literaticat.livejournal.com
Me, I'm all about simple yumminess in cheese, not status. So I promise you will never inadvertantly insult me with your cheese choice.

(Unless you are like "Oh, for you, EASY-CHEEZE, definately!")

(and HA on the non-fabulous non-world-cup dude)

Date: 2006-06-13 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
You are my favorite type of cheese customer. how come you never come by?

Date: 2006-06-12 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jette.livejournal.com
Now you've touched on yet more ways that CHEESE IS EVIL.

Date: 2006-06-12 05:14 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-06-12 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisisthenow.livejournal.com
I ran into this problem all the time when it came to recommending wines and dishes when I was a waiter. I ultimately decided that if I couldn't read someone quickly, I'd either ask what they normally have at home, or more often than not, just recommend the most expensive thing and see if they'd bite or not.

Date: 2006-06-12 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strix-an-stones.livejournal.com
*nods* I ran into the same with wines and micro-brewery specialty beers. Sometime you got people who were genuinely nice and interested in things that weren't pretentious but more often than not you got a snob that shopped the right side of the menu. Few honestly knew or appreciated the difference in quality.

Date: 2006-06-13 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
yeah, there is a wide spectrum. I love it when someone is being snooty and then let drop something that us pros know is just ridiculous. "That Vacherin Mont D'or is ok, I guess. But St. Andre is so much better." it's actually the non-subjective ranking that annoys me the most.

Date: 2006-06-13 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
yeah, that is what I'd normally do, ask what they usually like. Saturdays can be crazy though, so one must try shortcuts.
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Date: 2006-06-13 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
The piggies are awesome.
From: [identity profile] chitinous.livejournal.com
I'd never before considered cheese as a great social divider. I'm looking forward to hearing more.

Date: 2006-06-12 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifeasjuicy.livejournal.com
Excuse me, can you tell me where the kefir sour cream is??

Date: 2006-06-13 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
well, that's an honest question at least.

Do you get your veggies returned because they're dirty ever? now that's fun!

Date: 2006-06-12 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayun.livejournal.com
It's reassuring, somehow, to know that there are things that go right over my head that could be endless sources of neuroses.

What does that wedge of St. Andre in the fridge say about me (other than I am likely to die of heart disease)? Does the fact that I bought it at Trader Joe's mitigate in any direction?

Date: 2006-06-13 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
it means you have higher end mass-produced cheese taste. It means either that you only like mild cheese, you haven't discovered more hand-made products or you can't afford them. If you weren't asking for a break-me-out-of-my-rut cheese but a if-i-like-this-what-would-I-like cheese, I would suggest the oozy handmade triple creams like Explorateur or Brillat Savarin or a similarly textured, but better, Jean Grogne.

If you were trying to break out of a rut but still wanted soft, I would suggest Taleggio (stinkier, but with less butterfat and just a little more pungency), a goat brie, or one of the gentler washed rind stinkies (pont l'eveque etc.) or whatever new and good was lying around.

Our Explorateur sign actually reads, "This kicks St. Andre's ass".

Date: 2006-06-13 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayun.livejournal.com
Also that I'm a lazy cheese explorer - though The Hippie and I are good friends of Taleggio. Goat brie definitely sounds worth checking out.

Date: 2006-06-13 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahshevett.livejournal.com
I'll have to try the Explorateur, because just thinking about the St Andre makes my mouth water.
Hey what happened to the alphabetical cheese reviews?

Date: 2006-06-12 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purejuice.livejournal.com
this is fascinating. like reading, you know, somebody's curd and whey aura.

Date: 2006-06-13 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
nah, it's a close relative of sizing up a mark. I just use my powers for good not evil.

I did it for the sake of the co-op

Date: 2006-06-13 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dairryiere.livejournal.com
I sized up a mark today!
Hipster, mid twenties, with clingy new girlfriend, "What's exciting today?"
She giggled and looked up at him like he was god so I pointed out a fine assortment of $26-$30/lb cheeses which he bought to impress her.

Date: 2006-06-13 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buttonlass.livejournal.com
What is this Specialty Cheese Shop Manual? I'm a newly appointed cheese manager for a gourmet cheese shop in Minneapolis and have been trying to put together an employee manual. This sounds terribly useful.

The worst part about sizing up customers is that it can't really be taught. I mean eventually you work out your own ideas with experience, but sometimes it's painful to watch other employees miss. I take solace in the fact that my off days are few and far between now. But I think it also makes them stand out more sadly.

Date: 2006-06-13 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
which store?

the SCSM is pretty dated. I found it at a thrift store and it also has advice like, "buy 10 lb. Emmenthal cuts instead of wheels. That way female clerks can lift them." not that I want to lift a full wheel of Emmenthal myself, but you get the idea.

Call me at work. I can send you a copy of ours if you are an independent store. It isn't complete, I was thinking of adding on to it, but this might be a good excuse to start.

number and e-mail in the next comment

Date: 2006-06-15 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winsey.livejournal.com
I was actually going to ask if cheese buying demographics have not changed in the last 25 years. But if you got it at a thrift store, that kind of explains everything.

On another note, I had raw milk Brie de Meaux last week because I can buy it in this country. Mmmmm.

Date: 2006-06-15 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
hey, It ocurred to me you might now get comments e-mailed to you. I commented and deleted my info, but if you didn't get it, and you want it, e-mail me at gedgar at rainbow.coop

Date: 2006-06-13 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fearfuloptimist.livejournal.com
If it were me, you would have just suggested Velveeta. Or cheddar. Or brie from around the corner.

Date: 2006-06-13 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jendle.livejournal.com
Hee hee, I just bought Fromager D'Affinois this morning. Somehow vaguely remembered you saying something along the lines of good value for the quality, which was about all I had mental energy for at 9 am in the QFC.

Have I mentioned lately that I love you? And that I'm going to show up incognito in your shop someday and present a baffling customer profile and start talking to you strangely til you figure out who I am? But I'm easy, because all I really care about is how it tastes and how much it costs.

Date: 2006-06-13 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hoyvenmayven.livejournal.com
Okay, where is this cheese shop of yours? Because I need to come in and get an education about cheese and I think you're just the person I need to go to.

Date: 2006-06-13 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baldanders.livejournal.com
I find this fascinating. Thanks.

Date: 2006-06-15 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
I'm glad I'm not alone.

*opening the door*

Date: 2006-06-13 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elementa.livejournal.com
double libra, rising and venus in scorpio

I like cats, hot dogs, and hot baths.

so what's my cheese?

GASP!!!

Date: 2006-06-13 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] black-pearl-10.livejournal.com
"Not only did he not follow the World Cup..."

THE HORROR!!! Who is this weirdo?

I added you by the way...

Re: GASP!!!

Date: 2006-06-13 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
long overdue, I added you back.

Date: 2006-06-13 08:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kest
dammit, now I want tasty cheese!

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