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One of the things I did while sick this week was watch, "When the Levees Broke", the Spike Lee documentary about Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath. It was well done and compelling, though a little depressing for the edgy emotional state I get into while sick. I watched it in dribs and drabs, sometimes because it made me cry and sometimes because I found I couldn't concentrate because of my sick brain.

The only part I watched where I was like, "Hmmm, this seems a little picky." Was the scene where a teenager gives a tour of his FEMA trailer, complaining about how cheaply made it is. I didn't dwell on it but Lee had just documented how few people had gotten the trailers at all so it seemed a little, I hesitate to write this, ungrateful. It was a minor moment, but to me it seemed like a false note, a moment of less righteous anger in a film where "righteous anger" was the baseline .

And you know what? I was totally wrong.

Not 15 minutes after watching that I read a Nation article that just came out. Written about a year after the movie was filmed, it detailed that those trailers are making people sick because the materials aren't rated for people to actually live in them. Truly much of New Orleans is toxic still, and it would be hard to separate the toxicity of formaldehyde from the toxicity of sewage, mold, etc without massive study. But, man… It just keeps coming.

In other movie news I finally saw "Pan's Labyrinth" last night. I never get tired of seeing Fascists killed, especially Spanish ones. My favorite scene was right near the end so I probably shouldn't mention it until the movie is out of the theaters, but as someone who grew up watching war movies the "Fuck your honor" moment was incredibly satisfying and against genre. As it should be.

I also somehow got that James Bond movie from Netflix... "The World is not Enough" starring Remington Steele. It was so bad that I actually returned it unfinished. I realized about half way to the mailbox that I actually forgot to watch the last 15 minutes and I totally didn't care. I swear I don't know how that got on my queue. I think the name confused me. Maybe I was thinking it was "The World Can't Wait" and it was about sectarian front groups, I dunno.

Date: 2007-02-19 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beelavender.livejournal.com
I've been on a big Remington Steele kick and have rented as many shows and movies as I could find.... but not the Bond franchise. Never!

Date: 2007-02-19 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
I blame the sickness!

Date: 2007-02-19 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
oh and I saw a trailer last night for a new movie where Remington is a vengeful Civil War vet who YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK WITH.

Date: 2007-02-22 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beelavender.livejournal.com
Oooh! Exciting!!

Date: 2007-02-19 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knowyermonkey.livejournal.com
yes..i too enjoyed the fascist plot line in that film...my husband is always going on about Spain under Franco, so i feel particularly intrigued

also..levee is on my list...mebbie i'll move it up

hope you are feelin better

ps: the thought of you watching it and crying is just so
endearingly cute.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
the crazy thing about that movie is the guerillas talking about D-Day. Then reality sets in (for the viewers) that they still have 30+ years of fascism to live through. If they live.

Date: 2007-02-19 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icki.livejournal.com
I admit to being a Bond fan, but "The World is not Enough" is a true low-point in the franchise, which is saying something. The new Bond movie with Daniel Craig is worth renting though...if you like Bond movies at all.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
you know, I think I thought this one was that. Maybe that was it.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bikenerd.livejournal.com
Yeah, that line in Pan's Labyrinth... bee-you-ti-full

Date: 2007-02-19 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
I knew the anarchists would understand. I just sent you a sad e-mail.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathrees.livejournal.com
Hot damn. That's insane. I have When the Levees Broke at the top of my queue right now because I'm going to NOLA next month. Did you read the NYT article last week about the move towards tiny homes, and how Lowe's is going to start selling the Fema houses? .....Hmmmmm.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
no, I totally didn't. I'll check it out.

yeah, the movie is pretty damn good, especially since it was made so soon after.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubiquity75.livejournal.com
I hadn't even finished reading your post when I scrolled down to comment just what you posted: those trailers are not long-term residential dwellings; they're more like RVs, and cheap, shitty ones, at that. If the FEMA housing had been meant for days, weeks - hell, even months - that would have been one thing, yet 2007 will be two years post-Katrina, and I bet the trailers will still be filled with displaced persons. Disgraceful.

I watched When the Levees... all in one sitting. It was fucking devastating.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
well, I'm not very familiar with RVs. It did not occur to me that they aren't rated for people to live in i.e. they exude too much formaldehyde for humans to breathe in long term without becoming sick. I just never thought about it.

In SF the last of the 1906 earthquake cottages have finally been removed. Most were remodeled or destroyed years ago but a few have been declared landmarks and were moved and preserved, looking for a new lot to be placed on.

100 years. and still functional, if too small for the $1 million lots they now sit on.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubiquity75.livejournal.com
Well, basically, what I meant to do was differentiate between mobile homes/prefab housing, and the type of thing you would hook up to your truck to take "camping" for a week. They have people living in the latter.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
I understood. I just hadn't realized there was a difference in terms of chemical outgassing etc. I've never been camping in any kind of RV. In fact, I don't think I've ever been in any kind of RV, really. I assumed the standards were the same for those as for mobile/prefab homes insofar as human health and safety was concerned.

Date: 2007-02-19 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ubiquity75.livejournal.com
I have been.
Unfortunately.

Date: 2007-02-19 07:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] delux-vivens.livejournal.com
an lj friend of an lj friend once commented about how she was lectured by fema staff for not beign grateful to god enough for what she was getting from fema..

Date: 2007-02-19 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
awesome.

yeah, I wrote the thing about "ungrateful" as a statement about myself, you know? I thought that and immediately, rationally, felt I was being fucked up. And it turned out I was being even more fucked up than I thought.

Date: 2007-02-19 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crabbypattie.livejournal.com
It took Akilles and I a whole week to watch "When the Levees Broke" because one hour at a time was enough to digest.

Date: 2007-02-19 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liveavatar.livejournal.com
Coincidentally, I saw Pan's Labyrinth last night too. It struck me as a true fairy tale, with all the gore they usually leave out and the real mixture of good and bad results. It's so rare to get that effect mixed with so much beauty.

As far as When the Levees Broke goes, I haven't been able to finish watching it yet, because it keeps pissing me off.

Date: 2007-02-20 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
the movie keeps pissing you off or the situation?

as for Pan, I'm not too into fairy tales but through in some Spanish anarchists and fascists and I'm there!

Date: 2007-02-20 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liveavatar.livejournal.com
The situation, which gets me to pacing and complaining so much I can't focus on the movie. I should try to watch 1 hour at a time, that might make it bearable.

Pan's Labyrinth manages to be a fairy tale *about* Spanish anarchists and fascists, that's one of the things I liked best about it. Its plot could have come from a fairy tale, Captain Vidal was the child-eating ogre, etc. Like the best stories, it showed people's weaknesses and strengths, and didn't hide from the blood.

Date: 2007-02-19 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stopword.livejournal.com
I've only watched the first disk of "When the Levees Broke", but I thought he did a great job of bringing in a wide varity of opinions and statements, without seeming to favor one point of view exclusively. I'm thinking in particular of the way he'd find some very sad stories, trump that story, trump it again, and then present someone so beat down that all they could think to say was the absolute extreme of "the government should have helped us [I agree], should still be helping us [I totally agree], should be giving us a hundred thousand dollars for pain and suffering [wait] and rebuilding my house twice as nice as before! [what.]"

I took a social science class in my long-ago undergrad years, and the professor specialized in disaster psychology. It's fascinating to see how people behave in the exact ways he said they would - there was a particular phase he focused on where people can't help themselves at all because they're too overwhelmed, and they get very angry with their rescuers because it's really the only emotion left that is safe to have. When the people in NOLA hit that phase (and they all seemed to hit it at the same time, and it has lasted a long time), the Right Wing used it as a wedge to prove that all of "those people" were ungrateful wretches who had things work out "quite well, overall" and who just couldn't appreciate the nice things they were being given.

Um, I'm not sure what the point of this is. I guess just that Spike Lee delivers a great movie yet again. I need to watch the rest.

Date: 2007-02-20 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
that social science class stuff is interesting. I wonder how cynically that information is used in government.

Date: 2007-02-21 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flipzagging.livejournal.com
There was an interesting Harper's article which talked about the opposite question: “Why do large-scale disasters produce such mentally healthy conditions?”

The contention was that our leaders expect always chaos in the streets, but usually the atmosphere is one of mutual aid, and there is a distinct drop in destructive or neurotic behavior. Totally by coincidence, this was on the newsstands when Katrina hit.

I was impressed by the article at the time, but it sounds like you're in a position to know whether it's backed up by the facts?

Date: 2007-02-21 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stopword.livejournal.com
Well, I'm not sure people going through a disaster can be considered mentally unhealthy, so probably the phases of disaster coping are compatible with what Harper's found. Here are the phases, which I found online and did not remember with my headbone:

In the impact phase, survivors do not panic and may, in fact, show no emotion. They do what they must to keep themselves and their families alive.

In the inventory phase, which immediately follows the event, survivors assess damage and try to locate other survivors. During this phase, routine social ties tend to be discarded in favor of the more functional relationships required for initial response activities such as search and rescue and emergency medical operations.

In the rescue phase, emergency services personnel are responding and survivors are willing to take their direction from these groups without protest. They exhibit a sense of trust that their rescuers will address their needs and that they can then put their lives together quickly.

In the recovery phase, however, survivors may believe that rescue efforts are not proceeding quickly enough. That feeling, combined with other emotional stressors (for example, dealing with insurance adjustors and having to find temporary living accommodations), may cause survivors to pull together against their rescuers.

Date: 2007-02-19 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rockgeisha.livejournal.com
Watching "When the Levees Broke" was like sweating out a fever...almost. I still have a nice reserve of rage and other feelings.

Date: 2007-02-20 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
well, I was doing that at the same time! Yeah, I really couldn't watch it in one sitting.

Date: 2007-02-20 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
haha. I was like, that is my favorite Sonic Youth but why are you posting it?

then I got it.

good one.

Date: 2007-02-20 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jtemperance.livejournal.com
I wonder if they were both referencing some common source, or if they came up with that independently, or if the director of Pan's Labyrinth is a Sonic Youth fan?

Date: 2007-02-20 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
I don't klnow the source but it's older than Sonic Youth. I have a vague memory of "In Search Of..." using some silent movie footage of someone doing that yo symbolize some pagan society that "disappeared".

Date: 2007-02-20 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrider.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting the link to the toxic-trailers article. I watched "When the Levees Broke" a couple of weekends ago & had to break it up over a few days--but I'm really glad I watched, since it provided me with a framework for thinking-through how one could create a record of the events & a record of so many moments when FEMA's inaction or inept action caused extensive, devastating effects.

Seeing Dinerral Shavers of the Hot 8 Brass Band in the doc was especially sad, given his recent murder.

Date: 2007-02-20 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
yes. all that.
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Date: 2007-02-20 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
yeah, I think in that way the events are very similar. Poor George.

Date: 2007-02-20 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] existentialista.livejournal.com
cindi thanks us all of the time for taking her in up here and helping her start a new life...she's going to graduate this spring, so i get to be a proud momma...and she's getting married in september, so my mom and i are busy planning a wedding for her along with her sister in NOLA trying to work with us up here...we've really become close with her sis also, and cindi has been calling me mom for the longest time now...

her sister refuses to "desert" NOLA, but has noticed that she has been getting sick a lot and is comtemplating moving up here to be closer to cindi -- cindi decided that she was never going to go back after she did and saw the numbers on the door and what was left of her grandparents' home...she STILL has nightmares once in a while, but is MUCH better than what she was when they first dropped her off on my porch...

i inherited a college-aged kid...but so proud of what she has done to create a great, wonderful life for herself!

Date: 2007-02-20 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
yeah, you pretty much won "best person on my friendslist" for taking in a Katrina survivor. That's awesome that she's doing so well.

Date: 2007-02-20 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] existentialista.livejournal.com
i basically couldn't refuse when i was asked by my alma mater...and while we waited for her we saw the video feeds and wondered what in the hell did i get us into...she was very quiet initially...many of my friends helped with many things to get her life normal -- one even cordinated some mechanics and fixed up a car to get her to school...so it wasn't just me that she came to, she came to a whole slew of freaky people (both in real life as well as some LJ friends) who all wanted to help, but felt that their small efforts would fall on deaf ears -- but pulled together we made a world of difference in a young woman who is just amazing...

thanks for the compliment -- but i had plenty of help from many people...i mainly gave her a roof, food and a shoulder to cry on -- there was a lot of that...and helping her get her classes scheduled, showing her around campus...but in all honesty, the little things that friends did (like send her zines and books, one got her a prepaid cell phone so she could make her FEMA calls and look for her sister), one sent her some clothing, a gal pal got the salon she works at to give her a makeover for school & they hooked her up with enough hair and styling products for like a year...

yes, it does take a community -- i have learned so much about love and family through this experience...i also have learmed a great deal about my redneck neighbors here who made food, invited her to BBQs in the neighborhood, gave her babysitting gigs to make some $ -- i may talk shit about them from time to time, but they have shown that they have a lot of heart...they just drink shitty beer ;-P

but i don't think i could ever do it again -- i cried along with her so much, was stressed out along with her in trying to find her family and get her life in some semblance of normalcy...

however i DO get angry at those who have used their situation for personal gain, who are not trying to create a homelife somewhere and are dragging their kids down with them...many came to detroit, and i worked at a center screening families...so many just wanted to know when we could get them their FEMA check -- and once they got it, many just blew it and then became part of our welfare system...but not everyone did that, i believe a very rare few...

...yeah, thanks for the compliment -- but i'll never do it again.

Date: 2007-02-20 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nunofthat.livejournal.com
"When the Levees Broke" has been on my list forever -- it's a film I've felt like I "should" see, but I've been afraid I would just sob and rage and sob through the whole thing. The FEMA trailer situation is especially hard. Thanks for the Nation link.

I had the opportunity to go to New Orleans this spring with a few photographers/writers to work on a project there and I let it pass. Well, I could still say yes, there's still time. But the magnitude of it all makes me feel so fucking demoralized that I can barely leave this LJ comment, can't even rent the damn film, let alone become what feels like a war correspondent.

Date: 2007-02-20 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
a friend of mine is there right now. I'm really interested in what she's gonna say. Knowing her, she'll probably wanna move there to help. But, she has asthma and breathing issues already so it would have been suicidal for her to go any earlier.

Date: 2007-02-20 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nunofthat.livejournal.com
P.S. Ha ha on World Can't Wait! Oh my god. Do you know of any good movies on sectarian front groups? I'm fascinated.

Date: 2007-02-20 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
thank god someone finally laughed at that joke.

there is exactly one good movie about sectarians that some mistakenly think is about Chrisianity: "Life of Brian".

Date: 2007-02-20 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nunofthat.livejournal.com
I had completely forgotten about this one, and I needed a laugh so badly today that I stopped at the Blockbuster on the way home and rented it. It's been a long afternoon.

I need to tell you all about the crazy sectarians I've been meeting.

And you used the PEMM icon!

Date: 2007-02-21 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flipzagging.livejournal.com
Would you agree that one of the best things about Pan's Labyrinth is that the fascist is a real person? Even sympathetic in some ways.

The thing is, fascism has its attractions, and it plays on psychological flaws that many of us have. If it were not so, it wouldn't be dangerous.

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