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You know, I was pretty isolated in Seattle during CheeseCon. There just wasn't much time to check the news, and keeping track of the new fascism is never my start-of-the-day routine. In fact, truth be told, I let you folks follow that stuff, then I follow your links.

But I do have something to say. Glen Beck leading a rally at the Lincoln Monument trying to "reclaim" the Civil Rights movement for the (white) right? This is a Mein Kampf-level attempt at re-writing history. Tactically its probably best if the response to this is counter-protest, organizing, and writing; but morally... those folks should have been met with baseball bats and boots, just like when the Nazi skins try to march.

There's been an inevitable, historical line to this, with the Right trying to "reclaim" Lincoln and MLK, but this really is a moral (and political) outrage, something that opens a new frontier in the cultural war, something that all good people need to speak out against.

Right wing white people did not make the civil rights movement. I mean, duh. They opposed it every step of the way. Black people made the Civil Rights Movement -- with the help of many other folks, to be sure -- but black people did the main organizing, theorizing, and dying for the cause. The fact that I feel the need to type this in 2010 makes me wanna puke.

Some white folks can't understand why some black people get upset when progressive white-dominated movements take the mantle of "Civil Rights Movement" as their own. From gay marriage to raw milk... and now to neo-fascism, folks want to take that mantle because the decades of bravery, strategy, martyrdom, and, in the end, tangible victories, are a still-pure example of organizing, well-regarded, (if not necessarily fully understood) by almost everyone. While it's easy to join a chorus of condemnation against Glen Beck on this, one should also ask whether it would be possible for Beck to take this step without "progressive" white-led groups setting the table for him by doing it themselves.

It's understandable that people, naively or cynically, want to be associated with the Civil Rights Movement. But if your group is mostly white people, you can't take it. It is just not yours to take.



( Here is a good Leonard Pitts column if you need background.)

Date: 2010-08-30 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bixie.livejournal.com
I loved Jon Stewart mocking Beck by saying "Black people don't OWN Martin Luther King, white people OWN...oh, wait, um, that's not right."

Anyway, I, too, have been totally confused by just how someone goes about "re"-claiming something that they never had a claim to in the first place. I mean, I get the twisted GOP rhetoric around the Party of Lincoln, that's technically true albeit substantively a load of horseshit. But the Civil Rights Movement? There's some good crack in that tea.

Date: 2010-08-30 05:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] delux-vivens.livejournal.com
one should also ask whether it would be possible for Beck to take this step without "progressive" white-led groups setting the table for him by doing it themselves

i <3 you, and will quote this.

Date: 2010-08-30 06:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] elusis.livejournal.com
Hear, hear.

Date: 2010-08-30 06:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabotabby
I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're so right.

Date: 2010-08-30 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dcart.livejournal.com
It may be obvious that I'm currently struggling with the single greatest period of disillusionment with liberals and lefties of my lifetime. I think you're right that this is something that should be met with baseball bats and boots. I also think you're likely to only find that happening in a great new facebook game from zynga! Also available on iphone and andoid!

Date: 2010-08-30 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuliphead.livejournal.com
There was a Reddit comment to the effect that these "civil rights protesters" should have been met with firehoses and dogs, so they could get a taste of what it was like to fight for civil rights in Birmingham in '63. That would've been fine with me.

Date: 2010-09-01 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soalivesofree.livejournal.com
Genius. I'm going to remember this.

Permission to repost?

Date: 2010-08-30 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deviantgrrrl.livejournal.com
This is beautifully stated, and needs to be heard by more people.

Date: 2010-08-30 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walktheplank.livejournal.com
There was a Reddit comment to the effect that these "civil rights protesters" should have been met with firehoses and dogs, so they could get a taste of what it was like to fight for civil rights in Birmingham in '63.


I'll second that.

Re: Permission to repost?

Date: 2010-08-30 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
I'm honored. Anything here not locked is fair game.

Date: 2010-08-30 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rockgeisha.livejournal.com
This is so good that I keep trying to like and/or reblog it but this isn't tumblr or Facebook.

Date: 2010-08-30 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinymammoth.livejournal.com
That's revolting and idiotic.

Date: 2010-08-31 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kohntarkosz.livejournal.com
Absolutely agreed. And well put.

Date: 2010-08-31 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimmerians.livejournal.com
::wild, fierce applause::

PERFECT.

Date: 2010-09-01 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flipzagging.livejournal.com
A guy on Reddit has had an amusing idea (just hours ago): draft Stephen Colbert and Tina Fey for a satirical counter-rally.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/d7ntl/ive_had_a_vision_and_i_cant_shake_it_colbert/

http://www.colbertrally.com/

To some extent, this is falling into the trap of answering celebrities with other celebrities... but it's too funny of an idea for me not to support it.

Date: 2010-09-01 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soalivesofree.livejournal.com
You know, I'd never thought about this whole thing from that perspective, but you are absolutely right. It makes sense that, to take a common example, once someone like Rosa Parks trotted out as a metaphor every time someone got arrested for doing something vaguely disobedient, it turned her into a meaningless symbol and thus fair game for anyone who wanted to use her and the values connoted by her for any reason at all. Thanks for bringing this up, because it makes perfect sense and I can't believe I'd never thought of it before.

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