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Matt's a HOTTIE. That is why. He appeals to all the Earnest Young Ladies. I'm voting for his hair.

Plus I can't remember exactly why right now, but Tommie the Commie has pissed me off a couple of times in the past.

Angela is a hoot, I almost want to vote for her instead, for the entertainment value. Susan Leal was super hot 5 years ago or so, but now she looks like the frump truck ran her over. How can she manage the city if she can't manage her look?

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I don't see at all how Newsom appeals to minorities.

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? Neither do I. But did you see the "minority face" door hanger? With the photo of a pretty, Marina-type Black girl illustrating a pull-quote about how much Gavin cares about "her community?" My husband grabbed it, put it over his face, and said, "Look, I am Gavin, and I am down with the brothers!"

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"Matt's a HOTTIE. That is why. He appeals to all the Earnest Young Ladies. I'm voting for his hair."

Greasy and parted in the middle?! Eeewwww. It's as objectionable as Gavin's stiff quiff, for all sorts of different reasons.

Actually, what a great idea for a reality show~~ make all candidates submit to a makeover. I woulda watched that.

Let's face it, after Jordan's performance in the shower, I think we can agree that dignity is *not* part of the mayoral race in SF.

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Yeah, exactly, he's got like, Emo Hair.

That's not grease, that's pomade, I'm sure.

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Anyway, I think he's cute, and he is a Green, it's enough for me.

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AAAHHHH JORDAN IN THE SHOWER AAHHHH

::is blind::

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yeah, I saw a new issue of the "Argonaut" on the street last night. That's Warren Hinckle's hit piece paper that actually ran the full length Jordan photo the day before the election that year (which I still have somewhere). nothing so good this time. what a disappointment. I was hoping for Gavin doing coke or Matt picking up chicks.

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tristn.livejournal.com

Matt's not hot because of his hair Matt's hot because he's a green and just got into the run off with the big bad evil Newscum. Well, ok I guess the fact that he's a green sort of makes me think he maybe is hot as well. If he wasn't a green running for mayor that sometimes hangs out with artists would he still be hot? These are the important issues to question.

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I really can't answer that, since I'm a personality girl. It's too hard for me to seperate that stuff.

Although, he does got sort of got nice brown eyes and is a little chubby, which I can dig.

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that icon is creeping me out!

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Is this better? :-P

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scarier but more obscure. for now at least.

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epanastatis.livejournal.com

OK, what's the anarcho-syndicalist justification for voting for a Democrat (even the leftmost of the lot)?

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nihilistic-kid.livejournal.com

Smash The State?

___ Yes.

___ No.

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epanastatis.livejournal.com

You forgot this option:

___ Maybe later.

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1. I'd like to keep living in my rent-controlled apartment.

2. I'm not a purist.

3. Voting's ok as long as one realizes it's one of the least effective long-term forms of political action. I think it's rather silly to avoid voting in a city that makes it so incredibly easy (because of the number of polling places) because of an abstract theoretical belief. Encouraging people not to vote seems to me to be a waste of time and effort. Encouraging people to remember that elected officials don't really represent them as they vote for the least offensive one seems more pragmatic.

Also, Democrats have a wider range of politics here than in most places. All the serious candidates in the Mayors race, including my high school buddy, are Democarts except Gonzalez who's a Green. You can't get elected in a city-wide election as a Republican. Hell, Nader beat Bush here and it wasn't close.

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wait, did you post this just to goad ME? because i'm easily sucked into stupid debates on this topic. my argument can be boiled down to 3 points:

1. voting does not delay the advent of an anarchist society based on mutal aid etc.. - as far as i can tell - it has no impact on the possibility of that society.

2. elections, PARTICULARLY local ones, have a huge impact on the daily lives of a lot of people - often the most marginalized people in a given community. the state innitiatives are a good example - as are mayoral races. the passage or failure of prop 187 probably had little impact on an eventual anarchosydichalist society - but a huge impact on the laotian kids at my local elementary school.

i've forgotten my 3rd point. 2 is enough.

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amarama.livejournal.com

(Gagging) Vote, get the free sticker. See the old pollsters. See what your neighborhood school or neighbor's garage looks like.

I know you also advocate this, F, but I'm mitigating my hostility about this conversation by acting as your cheerleader.

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wait - which part of this conversation are you hostile towards.

ya, I forgot number 3 - get the free sticker.

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amarama.livejournal.com

You're goading.

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we don't get stickers at my polling place. hell, we didn't even have power today. good thing we didn't have computer voting yet.

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I've been voting at the same polling place for eleven years. We never get stickers either.

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amarama.livejournal.com

Clearly, it's time to move to the East Bay. Say you hate it, say it one more time...

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I would not, could not, move to Oakland for "I voted!" stickers... although that may be the thing that tips me over. :-P

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I HATE THE EAST BAY.

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you do seem easily goadable. ;)

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wait, i took a breath (and checked your lj) and noted that your actual question is around voting for a democrat - not voting in general. here's my new argument:

in the last oakland mayoral race, this guy named Wilson Riles challenged Jerry 'i'm an opportunist former liberal, now "centrist" trying to get a reputation so i can run for president again - not that i could ever win' Brown.

Wilson Riles is genuinely progressive. He's been working on Oakland and California politics - specifically around education - for years. I could be wrong, but i believe he's originally from oakland and is obviously personally invested in the city. He's also Black - and Oakland's population has a Black majority. Black activists fought long and hard to get a black mayor - but we only had 2 before Jerry Brown came to town.

anyhow, Jerry Brown won the last election and Wilson Riles lost. During his tenure as mayor, Jerry Brown has
- invited the Navy and Marines to conduct war games in Oakland
- spearheaded the opening of a 'military academy'
- wrote a winning ballot measure to get 100 more cops on the streets
- gained a reputation for being totally unresponsive to community groups
- other bad stuff i can't remember

i can't guarentee that had Riles won, Oakland would now be a workers paradise, but i feel confident that he would have made somewhat different policy decisions that could have had much less negative impact on the daily lives of Oaklanders.

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pantryslut.livejournal.com

If I were still in SF, I would probably vote for Gonzalez b/c he's the first guy I've liked *as a politician* for years. Tom's nice, but you want to go drinking with him, not have him run the city. He makes a good political gadfly, though.

I'm very amused to learn that you went to school with Gavin. I'm going to call him by his first name as a sign of disrespect. "Most GQ" -- I believe it!

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cherrifying.livejournal.com

Here's the split laid out as far as I understand it.

Mattheads:
"Class is the only issue"
"He's a hottie"
"He's a newcomer and therefore has a fresh vision"
"He doesn't talk with a lisping complainy manner"

Tom:
"Sexual orientation, gender, and race matter as much as class"
"He's been our defender and champion, with excellent legislations, for 20 years"
"Having a gay mayor makes a statement to the world about valuing the contributions of queer people"
"He's built up good working relationships with everyone in city hall already"

And I can't resist this breakdown---

Women who are for Matt:
1)think he's cute
2)have a tendency to date self-absorbed jerks

Women who are for Tom:
1)hardcore feminists
2)more dykes than I've ever seen on any campaign

Women who are for Angela:
1)women of color
2)professionals who find Newsom too brainless

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jactitation.livejournal.com

Cool. By voting for Tom does this mean I won't ever date self-absorbed jerks again? That's reason enough for me.

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oh no, but what will you do in the run-off?

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jactitation.livejournal.com

Don't tell me you're really going to bother to vote in the run-off! Me, I'm keeping my jerk-free future pure.

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oh ya, and if i was a SFranciscan, i'd be voting for tom.

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superchones.livejournal.com

for some reason i thought i had until february to register to vote. so no voting for me.

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swaz.livejournal.com

...because I don't think Tom's ship is able to win the race.

I feel like the Tom's old tug has lost a lot of momentum and does not stack up well against the SS Nuisance, we saw what the HMS Willie did to him back when he had a full head of steam. However Matt's rig is untested and the outcome is less certain, less certain to find itself at the bottom of the bay.

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I think a lot of people feel that way. Still, I saw Tom's face last night and I couldn't vote against him.

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ilipodscrill.livejournal.com

i was pretty torn a few days ago. i hope he wins...or at least i hope newsom doesn't clean up and there's a run-off.
p.s.matt's hair is sorta emo...i'm not in the straight woman demographic, but i don't find him all that hot.

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I voted for Gavin because I hate rent control and homeless people, and because Angela Alioto is a terrible mother, Tom Ammiano is too embarrassing, and I don't know anything about Matt Gonzales other than that he's a pinko.

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slipkid.livejournal.com

you actually sound like someone who voted for Gavin. at least there is a runoff and you will get a chance to learn about MG before the next election.

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Boo, I'm from the Marina.

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slipkid.livejournal.com

so am I but that didn't deter to me from stepping out of line with then lemmings and vote for Matt. by the way, I am not inferring that you are a lemming, I just know a lot of them that weren't that well informed and voted for GN just because it seemed like the right thing to do for appearances sake.

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Appearance? They're so dumb they don't understand the whole "secret ballot" concept? Well, yes, I suppose they are.

You know, I've never actually seen a lemming. At the zoo or on tv.

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Hee hee. I love that you Marina-baited yourself to the one other person who (I know) reads this journal who lives there. I think everyone thought you were kidding at first.

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She's so not kidding! Heh.

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