The under-reaches of Peaches
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Really, I liked "The Teaches of Peaches". It’s not like the concepts behind "Fuck the Pain Away" or rhyming "rock show" with "cock show" were revolutionary or anything. But it was funny and obnoxious in all the right ways for a new-fad type of album. If I was still a teenager, I would have loved playing it in front of my parents.
But the new album? Eh.
bornbent was kind enough to burn me a copy for my birthday but I think she’ll appreciate my honest review. It’s just not doing it for me.
"Fatherfucker" starts off badly. Peaches yells "I don’t give a fuck" and "I don’t give a shit" repeatedly over a sample of Joan Jett’s "Bad Reputation". Don’t get me wrong, I love Joan Jett. But Peaches’ bratty yelling makes Joan Jett sound pensive and thoughtful in comparison. And that’s not why I listen to Joan Jett.
But the next song is even worse. First it’s at a speed that just doesn’t work for electronica. Way too slow. But it does illuminate a big problem for the whole album. Way too much weight is placed on lyrics that just aren’t very clever, fresh, and have already used up their cultural resonance. During "I’m the Kinda" the music drops out. The listener waits, anticipating a meaningful or amusingly strong lyric. What do we get? "Knocking you out like Rocky Balboa" What? This is 2003. Who the fuck is Rocky Balboa?*
It’s a continuing problem. The I-like-fucking-boys-up-the-ass song has the horrible load-bearing lyric "Sweet buns, let me be your gun" repeated over and over. Besides, isn’t the whole fucking-boys-up-the-ass thing a little played out as a daring sex-pos statement? Everyone’s already doing it. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next Brittney Spears album had a song about it. Or maybe I’ve just lived in San Francisco too long, I can’t tell anymore.
There are some good songs too. The duet with Iggy Pop where they throw each other’s lyrics back and forth was really funny, even if Iggy’s voice has seen better days. "Shake your Dix" and "I U She" sound like they could have been on "Teaches". But overall, Peaches seems a little stalled. It’s just not shocking to sing about the same things over and over. And honestly, compared to say, Tragic Mulatto, Peaches really isn’t breaking any new ground.
Being slutty and into s/m just isn’t enough anymore. For the next album I suggest more songs about rimming, piss play, and maybe even furry-sex. Push it Peaches. Stardom awaits if you dare.
*Yes, that is a rhetorical question. We’re talking avant garde pop here. I don’t want my dad to understand the lyrics. Hell, I’m 36. I should only be able to understand about half of it.
But the new album? Eh.
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"Fatherfucker" starts off badly. Peaches yells "I don’t give a fuck" and "I don’t give a shit" repeatedly over a sample of Joan Jett’s "Bad Reputation". Don’t get me wrong, I love Joan Jett. But Peaches’ bratty yelling makes Joan Jett sound pensive and thoughtful in comparison. And that’s not why I listen to Joan Jett.
But the next song is even worse. First it’s at a speed that just doesn’t work for electronica. Way too slow. But it does illuminate a big problem for the whole album. Way too much weight is placed on lyrics that just aren’t very clever, fresh, and have already used up their cultural resonance. During "I’m the Kinda" the music drops out. The listener waits, anticipating a meaningful or amusingly strong lyric. What do we get? "Knocking you out like Rocky Balboa" What? This is 2003. Who the fuck is Rocky Balboa?*
It’s a continuing problem. The I-like-fucking-boys-up-the-ass song has the horrible load-bearing lyric "Sweet buns, let me be your gun" repeated over and over. Besides, isn’t the whole fucking-boys-up-the-ass thing a little played out as a daring sex-pos statement? Everyone’s already doing it. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next Brittney Spears album had a song about it. Or maybe I’ve just lived in San Francisco too long, I can’t tell anymore.
There are some good songs too. The duet with Iggy Pop where they throw each other’s lyrics back and forth was really funny, even if Iggy’s voice has seen better days. "Shake your Dix" and "I U She" sound like they could have been on "Teaches". But overall, Peaches seems a little stalled. It’s just not shocking to sing about the same things over and over. And honestly, compared to say, Tragic Mulatto, Peaches really isn’t breaking any new ground.
Being slutty and into s/m just isn’t enough anymore. For the next album I suggest more songs about rimming, piss play, and maybe even furry-sex. Push it Peaches. Stardom awaits if you dare.
*Yes, that is a rhetorical question. We’re talking avant garde pop here. I don’t want my dad to understand the lyrics. Hell, I’m 36. I should only be able to understand about half of it.
furry sex
I like "Shake Your Dix" but agree on some of the other songs on the album as not being as interesting. I haven't heard it all yet.
Even hotter than plushy sex and piss-play would be if she turned into some kind of faux leather-clad housewife, wearing a body stocking, leather/vinyl apron, thigh high boots, and sang songs about hot housewifery and making her man cook dinner every night while she whips him and then they have sex on the kitchen table on top of the half-eaten meal or something.
Re: furry sex
Date: 2003-10-27 10:16 am (UTC)not that you've thought about Peaches in a faux leather-clad housewife outfit or anything, eh Trishylicious?
As for the rhymes, we could probably come up with some good Peaches lyrics right now: "Playing with my plushy / He likes to take it in the tushy", "got my hamster suit / gonna take it in the boot" and "playing with my furry / and I won't get beri-beri" spring to mind immediately. anyone else?
Rhymes with plushy
Date: 2003-10-27 05:56 pm (UTC)when mah man puts on a plushy
He wants to tear it off too quick but I tell him
Bitch, dont rush me.
Re: Rhymes with plushy
Date: 2003-10-27 09:35 pm (UTC)BTW
Date: 2003-10-27 05:59 pm (UTC)Yes, I am that long fabled and until now purely theoretical person that "lives under a rock."
Re: BTW
Date: 2003-10-27 06:13 pm (UTC)you could follow the link in the post if you want. She's the one who put "Electroclash" on the map. If indeed it is on the map.
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Date: 2003-10-27 09:49 am (UTC)That would be sweet.
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Date: 2003-10-27 10:05 am (UTC)my favorite line:
"Being slutty and into s/m just isn’t enough anymore. For the next album I suggest more songs about rimming, piss play, and maybe even furry-sex. Push it Peaches. Stardom awaits if you dare."
hahahahaha.
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Date: 2003-10-27 10:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-10-27 10:12 am (UTC)Hehehehe, it's always so funny when someone starts talking their "My sexuality is so edgy and different" talk and you're like, "Eew. That's sooo 1992."
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Date: 2003-10-27 11:37 am (UTC)Not that I'm bitter or anything.
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Date: 2003-10-27 10:23 am (UTC)And I'm pretty sure you've lived in San Fran too long. I think that particular activity was a contributing factor in the death of the Ralphie character on The Sopranos. I'm pretty sure it could get you killed in some places not too far from where I grew up, too.
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Date: 2003-10-27 01:50 pm (UTC)peaches give me a rash much like the stale ripoffness of madonna.
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Date: 2003-10-27 10:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-10-28 08:42 am (UTC)NEver miss- always hit. ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE BANDS. FORMATIVE AND EVERLASTING.
AT 18th and FLorida
I explored her mucous corridor
We beat up some foreigners
In the radioactive mayonaise rain
as i rooted around in her rectal walls
i prayed for a miracle to make her sane
or make me grow a cock and balls
Puh-leeesee- nothing has ever come even CLOSE!!!
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Date: 2003-11-03 03:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-10-27 11:39 am (UTC)Of course, I haven't heard the album, but I'm allying with Peaches because I embrace sellouts. Don't tell me you think she's just boring now, you think she's a sellout.
c'mon. "smells like teen spirit" was my favorite nirvana song!
Date: 2003-10-27 06:18 pm (UTC)Re: c'mon. "smells like teen spirit" was my favorite nirvana song!
Date: 2003-10-27 07:03 pm (UTC)Hypocrite, hypocrite, hypocrite!
xo
Re: c'mon. "smells like teen spirit" was my favorite nirvana song!
Date: 2003-10-27 07:34 pm (UTC)Typical conversation:
Person #1: statement/observation
Person #2: double entendre
Person #1: double entendre in return
Person #2 triple entendre
Person #1 and #2: (knowing laughter)
over and over again without tiring. But they also tend to be slutty and I like slutty people. See, I give 'em their props.
xo
Re: c'mon. "smells like teen spirit" was my favorite nirvana song!
Date: 2003-10-27 09:38 pm (UTC)(Oh my god, someone stick a fucking pillow in my mouth today! Cut off my fingers! Don't let me back on the ether!)
FF definitely has shelf-life issues
Date: 2003-10-27 12:15 pm (UTC)p.s.
Date: 2003-10-27 04:30 pm (UTC)i do not enjoy peaches but that's probably no big surprise.
Re: p.s.
Date: 2003-10-27 06:20 pm (UTC)phd in haterology
Date: 2003-10-27 07:31 pm (UTC)next time you drop by, you will need to give me a few minutes to turn down my justin lust and shove all timbo paraphrenalia in the closet.
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Date: 2003-10-27 09:09 pm (UTC)Also, Peaches is friends with JD of Le Tigre and after talking to him, she admits to having "hermaphrodite envy." Another choice quote from Peaches comes from her interview with WIRE magazine. In it, they ask her "What is the Teaches of Peaches?" She replies "Nothing. Just two words that rhyme."
JUST TWO WORDS THAT RHYME.
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Date: 2003-10-27 09:42 pm (UTC)But, earlier, I was going to say something like, "She's even more annoying and even less musical than LeTigre" (ensuring I will never date a white girl in Frisco ever again), and there you go, making it clear that it's not just my personal cringe-counter, but an empirically observable connection between the two! Ugh! Can we make a Fisherman's Wharf-like place where all their fans can go and never get in the way of the rest of us?
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Date: 2003-10-28 08:37 am (UTC)please tell me you dislike le tigre. please, oh, please.
i have felt sooo ALONE for so long.
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Date: 2003-10-28 08:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-10-28 09:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-10-28 12:51 pm (UTC)no one who hates on le tigre should feel alone. i can start a support group if need be.
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Date: 2003-10-28 09:29 am (UTC)also, i heard one of the songs off of the new record, and thought it was totally busted; i can't remember what it was called. but i feel you on this one...
I can't believe i missed all this excitement!
Date: 2003-10-28 10:43 am (UTC)1. I haven't heard fatherfucker. I haven't even ever heard a song off the teaches of peaches all the way through. this is because, unless they get really cool at the end or something, they are boring. I have to admit that I was kinda biased against peaches based on the hype. I thought: oh god. i know exactly what this is, and i don't like it. however, there are people whose tastes i respect who are fans. and i do throughly appreciate actually fun pervy music i can relate to (I heartily endorse the cramps, pansy division and now gravy train, for example) so i tried to give peaches a chance, hoping maybe she'd actually turn out to be at least amusing. I do not understand how people can get excited about her without feeling like utter jackasses. I mean, "fuck the pain away" is supposed to be one of her best songs, right? I turned that shit off halfway through when it dawned on me that no, it wasn't going to get better. It just kept being…the same. I have heard/read that fucking “sucking on my titties like he wanted me” lyric quoted so many times which always kinda baffled me cuz like, um, is it that good? Now I understand that people must quote it all the time because that’s all there is to quote. I can’t comment on peaches’ live show as I have been invited by friends to go see her on many occasions, but have always politely declined.
2. I am so out of the music loop that I didn’t know there was a peaches/le tigre connection. of course there’s a peaches/le tigre connection. Why does there need to be a whole genre of “radical” underachieving white girl “hip hop influenced” remedial electronica? I could go off on how much I’ve grown to despise le tigre for longer than I can on peaches cuz I’m more familiar with their oeuvre, but it would probably be redundant.
3. I hate the sex radicals but the sex radicals (or the aspiring ones, anyway) love me. Everyone can use another special “sex worker” friend. and don't even get me started on strap-ons.
This comment is truncated as I was interrupted by my new rodent problem and I need to go collapse from exhaustion now.
Re: I can't believe i missed all this excitement!
Date: 2003-10-29 12:07 am (UTC)