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Really, I liked "The Teaches of Peaches". It’s not like the concepts behind "Fuck the Pain Away" or rhyming "rock show" with "cock show" were revolutionary or anything. But it was funny and obnoxious in all the right ways for a new-fad type of album. If I was still a teenager, I would have loved playing it in front of my parents.

But the new album? Eh. [livejournal.com profile] bornbent was kind enough to burn me a copy for my birthday but I think she’ll appreciate my honest review. It’s just not doing it for me.

"Fatherfucker" starts off badly. Peaches yells "I don’t give a fuck" and "I don’t give a shit" repeatedly over a sample of Joan Jett’s "Bad Reputation". Don’t get me wrong, I love Joan Jett. But Peaches’ bratty yelling makes Joan Jett sound pensive and thoughtful in comparison. And that’s not why I listen to Joan Jett.

But the next song is even worse. First it’s at a speed that just doesn’t work for electronica. Way too slow. But it does illuminate a big problem for the whole album. Way too much weight is placed on lyrics that just aren’t very clever, fresh, and have already used up their cultural resonance. During "I’m the Kinda" the music drops out. The listener waits, anticipating a meaningful or amusingly strong lyric. What do we get? "Knocking you out like Rocky Balboa" What? This is 2003. Who the fuck is Rocky Balboa?*

It’s a continuing problem. The I-like-fucking-boys-up-the-ass song has the horrible load-bearing lyric "Sweet buns, let me be your gun" repeated over and over. Besides, isn’t the whole fucking-boys-up-the-ass thing a little played out as a daring sex-pos statement? Everyone’s already doing it. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next Brittney Spears album had a song about it. Or maybe I’ve just lived in San Francisco too long, I can’t tell anymore.

There are some good songs too. The duet with Iggy Pop where they throw each other’s lyrics back and forth was really funny, even if Iggy’s voice has seen better days. "Shake your Dix" and "I U She" sound like they could have been on "Teaches". But overall, Peaches seems a little stalled. It’s just not shocking to sing about the same things over and over. And honestly, compared to say, Tragic Mulatto, Peaches really isn’t breaking any new ground.

Being slutty and into s/m just isn’t enough anymore. For the next album I suggest more songs about rimming, piss play, and maybe even furry-sex. Push it Peaches. Stardom awaits if you dare.



*Yes, that is a rhetorical question. We’re talking avant garde pop here. I don’t want my dad to understand the lyrics. Hell, I’m 36. I should only be able to understand about half of it.

furry sex

Date: 2003-10-27 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trishylicious.livejournal.com
Maybe "Plushy" doesn't rhyme with many good dirty words. Even "tushy" is quite a stretch. ?

I like "Shake Your Dix" but agree on some of the other songs on the album as not being as interesting. I haven't heard it all yet.

Even hotter than plushy sex and piss-play would be if she turned into some kind of faux leather-clad housewife, wearing a body stocking, leather/vinyl apron, thigh high boots, and sang songs about hot housewifery and making her man cook dinner every night while she whips him and then they have sex on the kitchen table on top of the half-eaten meal or something.

Re: furry sex

Date: 2003-10-27 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
Even hotter than plushy sex and piss-play would be if she turned into some kind of faux leather-clad housewife, wearing a body stocking, leather/vinyl apron, thigh high boots, and sang songs about hot housewifery and making her man cook dinner every night while she whips him and then they have sex on the kitchen table on top of the half-eaten meal or something.

not that you've thought about Peaches in a faux leather-clad housewife outfit or anything, eh Trishylicious?

As for the rhymes, we could probably come up with some good Peaches lyrics right now: "Playing with my plushy / He likes to take it in the tushy", "got my hamster suit / gonna take it in the boot" and "playing with my furry / and I won't get beri-beri" spring to mind immediately. anyone else?

Rhymes with plushy

Date: 2003-10-27 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-beeanna.livejournal.com
I get all mushy
when mah man puts on a plushy
He wants to tear it off too quick but I tell him
Bitch, dont rush me.

Re: Rhymes with plushy

Date: 2003-10-27 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jactitation.livejournal.com
Fuck Peaches, I'm listening to you from now on.

BTW

Date: 2003-10-27 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-beeanna.livejournal.com
...who the fuck is "Peaches?"

Yes, I am that long fabled and until now purely theoretical person that "lives under a rock."

Re: BTW

Date: 2003-10-27 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
dude, how can you not know when you wrote such great lyrics for her?

you could follow the link in the post if you want. She's the one who put "Electroclash" on the map. If indeed it is on the map.

Date: 2003-10-27 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rockgeisha.livejournal.com
I like Teaches so much that I'm afraid to listen to Fatherfucker based on what I've heard everyone saying.

Date: 2003-10-27 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
as soon as I listened to FF, I went back to Teaches just too make sure it was as good as I'd remembered. Luckily, it was.

Date: 2003-10-27 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] systemerror.livejournal.com
Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next Brittney Spears album had a song about it.

That would be sweet.

Date: 2003-10-27 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
but would MTV play the video?

Date: 2003-10-27 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vestalvixen.livejournal.com
they're already playing that video where she almost kisses Madonaa, and they do weird gymnastics type things with an empty bed frame.

Date: 2003-10-27 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easilyirritable.livejournal.com
If 2004 spawns a batch of poorly produced electroclash songs about scat play and enemas, I'm holding you fully responsible.

Date: 2003-10-27 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
I can't wait!

Date: 2003-10-27 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginoushka.livejournal.com
this is fucking hilarious. i just laughed out loud and probably annoyed all my hausmates. gordon, you rule. can we hang out when i'm back in san francisco?

my favorite line:
"Being slutty and into s/m just isn’t enough anymore. For the next album I suggest more songs about rimming, piss play, and maybe even furry-sex. Push it Peaches. Stardom awaits if you dare."

hahahahaha.

Date: 2003-10-27 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
and I know you love my SF references as only someone who grew up in the Bay and is living elsewhere can. send me an e-mail when you're back in town. December?

Date: 2003-10-27 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jette.livejournal.com
Besides, isn’t the whole fucking-boys-up-the-ass thing a little played out as a daring sex-pos statement? Everyone’s already doing it. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next Brittney Spears album had a song about it. Or maybe I’ve just lived in San Francisco too long, I can’t tell anymore.

Hehehehe, it's always so funny when someone starts talking their "My sexuality is so edgy and different" talk and you're like, "Eew. That's sooo 1992."

Date: 2003-10-27 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
yeah, there's not much more boring than "edgy" sex talk. you know, I think I'm gonna start putting "not that I'm judging or anything" as my e-mail signature. ;)

Date: 2003-10-27 11:03 am (UTC)
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Date: 2003-10-27 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
one wonders sometimes if those reviewers actually listen to the albums or just re-write the press packets 15 minutes before deadline.

Date: 2003-10-27 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com
Sometimes the reviewer writes their review, turns it in, is told by their editor, "aww, but I loved that album! I think you need to do a rewrite," so they turn in something plagiarized from the press packet about 15 minutes before deadline.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Date: 2003-10-27 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dcart.livejournal.com
I'm not sure what album it was that I heard, but I heard something by Peaches a few weeks ago and just thought it was stupid.

And I'm pretty sure you've lived in San Fran too long. I think that particular activity was a contributing factor in the death of the Ralphie character on The Sopranos. I'm pretty sure it could get you killed in some places not too far from where I grew up, too.

Date: 2003-10-27 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
don't blow it for me, I'm only on season two of the Sopranos.

Date: 2003-10-27 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jwz.livejournal.com
You haven't gotten to the Furry episode yet? Dude!

Date: 2003-10-27 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jactitation.livejournal.com
Gimme a fucking break. No Peaches song is listenable after the first time. Anyone who heard any no wave in the early 1980s already heard anything she was trying to do, and really that was an electro retread of Beat shit. A beat box and a dull voice? Wow. It really is amazing how much white people will pay to listen to other white people do just about anything.

Date: 2003-10-27 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
heh heh. Don't be a hater! ;)

Date: 2003-10-27 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jactitation.livejournal.com
Y'know, boy, saying that's kind of like saying don't breathe? Who the fuck are you talking to? (But if you'd been clever, you could have said stop being a race-baiting troll, and then I'd have respected you in the morning.)

Date: 2003-10-27 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vestalvixen.livejournal.com
I think I love you.

Date: 2003-10-27 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superchones.livejournal.com
damn straight.

peaches give me a rash much like the stale ripoffness of madonna.

Date: 2003-10-27 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
I wanted to reply to the deleted comment about Tragic Mulatto. They could definitely be hit or miss. But I will love them forever for one I-Beam show where they played het porn, dyke porn, fag porn, and time-lapse Photography of rotting, maggot-infested meat all spliced together. that and the safe sex song they did: "Don't let him come on your balls! / don't let him come on your walls! ..." I think coming on walls is considered "safe" now.

Date: 2003-10-28 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bornbent.livejournal.com
RE: TRAGIC MULATTO

NEver miss- always hit. ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE BANDS. FORMATIVE AND EVERLASTING.

AT 18th and FLorida
I explored her mucous corridor
We beat up some foreigners

In the radioactive mayonaise rain
as i rooted around in her rectal walls
i prayed for a miracle to make her sane
or make me grow a cock and balls

Puh-leeesee- nothing has ever come even CLOSE!!!

Date: 2003-11-03 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uke.livejournal.com
Sigh, Tragic Mulatto. I missed them live and only have one album: "Italians Fall Down and Look Up Your Dress." But it is one of my favorite albums of all time, definitely a desert island pick. I especially love the "safe sex" song you quote above.

Date: 2003-10-27 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amarama.livejournal.com
The woman has a schtick, it's bound to get played out eventually. She just understands who her market is. You can't hold that against her.

Of course, I haven't heard the album, but I'm allying with Peaches because I embrace sellouts. Don't tell me you think she's just boring now, you think she's a sellout.
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
yeah, she totally sold out her .... politics? . . . musical artistry? what could she possibly sell out?
From: [identity profile] amarama.livejournal.com
You seem to be reeling from her inevitable departure from the bleeding edge. You alluded to her earlier work as avant-garde! It's been clear since I began reading your journal that you're a closet music elitist. And don't you hate the sex radicals? Especially the "more sex radical than thou" sex radicals?

Hypocrite, hypocrite, hypocrite!

xo
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
yup, you got me on Peaches. But I will defend my nuanced take on sex radicals. yes, they can be self-righteous and repeat this conversation:

Typical conversation:
Person #1: statement/observation
Person #2: double entendre
Person #1: double entendre in return
Person #2 triple entendre
Person #1 and #2: (knowing laughter)


over and over again without tiring. But they also tend to be slutty and I like slutty people. See, I give 'em their props.

xo
From: [identity profile] jactitation.livejournal.com
You forgot the reference to either something from the RenFaire, Star Trek, or Lord of the Rings.

(Oh my god, someone stick a fucking pillow in my mouth today! Cut off my fingers! Don't let me back on the ether!)

FF definitely has shelf-life issues

Date: 2003-10-27 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilipodscrill.livejournal.com
having seen peaches live for the first time 2 yrs ago, most of what's on ff are songs she was already doing then. there were constant rumors of a new album, and holding back to sell more teaCHES was the wrong strategy. however tiresome her recorded output gets, no one gets peaches til they've seen her live. it just doesn't translate.

p.s.

Date: 2003-10-27 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superchones.livejournal.com
i enjoy the subject header of this post.

i do not enjoy peaches but that's probably no big surprise.

Re: p.s.

Date: 2003-10-27 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordonzola.livejournal.com
glad you liked the header. Yeah, it's no surprise you don't like Peaches. You, like Jactitation, are a hater. Hush up or I'll tell everyone about your Justin Timberlake crush.

phd in haterology

Date: 2003-10-27 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superchones.livejournal.com
hey now, big fella, ixnay on the imbotay, okay?

next time you drop by, you will need to give me a few minutes to turn down my justin lust and shove all timbo paraphrenalia in the closet.

Date: 2003-10-27 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dottedblouse.livejournal.com
Dude, Peaches has always been tired. At least I thought so. She's not half as dirty as Lil Kim...in a heterosexual sense, anyway.

Also, Peaches is friends with JD of Le Tigre and after talking to him, she admits to having "hermaphrodite envy." Another choice quote from Peaches comes from her interview with WIRE magazine. In it, they ask her "What is the Teaches of Peaches?" She replies "Nothing. Just two words that rhyme."

JUST TWO WORDS THAT RHYME.

Date: 2003-10-27 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jactitation.livejournal.com
(Okay, I swear I won't get on this thread again but...)

But, earlier, I was going to say something like, "She's even more annoying and even less musical than LeTigre" (ensuring I will never date a white girl in Frisco ever again), and there you go, making it clear that it's not just my personal cringe-counter, but an empirically observable connection between the two! Ugh! Can we make a Fisherman's Wharf-like place where all their fans can go and never get in the way of the rest of us?

Date: 2003-10-28 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bornbent.livejournal.com
oh jactitation, am i reading this correctly?

please tell me you dislike le tigre. please, oh, please.

i have felt sooo ALONE for so long.

Date: 2003-10-28 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jactitation.livejournal.com
D O N ' T E V E N G E T M E S T A R T E D

Date: 2003-10-28 09:21 am (UTC)

Date: 2003-10-28 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] constintina.livejournal.com
wait a minute, someone felt alone in disliking le tigre? that is so wrong!

no one who hates on le tigre should feel alone. i can start a support group if need be.

Date: 2003-10-28 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luuuvuuul.livejournal.com
whatever trevor, it's not radical in my book until you start rapping about corpse-fucking.

also, i heard one of the songs off of the new record, and thought it was totally busted; i can't remember what it was called. but i feel you on this one...

I can't believe i missed all this excitement!

Date: 2003-10-28 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] constintina.livejournal.com
I have this livejournal problem of reading threads I feel the need to weigh in on after they've already basically played themselves out. but since i'm sick as a dog, there's some type of small animal squatting in my apartment, and about a million other things are going horribly wrong I cannot pass up the opportunity to have my, like, ten cents on peaches.

1. I haven't heard fatherfucker. I haven't even ever heard a song off the teaches of peaches all the way through. this is because, unless they get really cool at the end or something, they are boring. I have to admit that I was kinda biased against peaches based on the hype. I thought: oh god. i know exactly what this is, and i don't like it. however, there are people whose tastes i respect who are fans. and i do throughly appreciate actually fun pervy music i can relate to (I heartily endorse the cramps, pansy division and now gravy train, for example) so i tried to give peaches a chance, hoping maybe she'd actually turn out to be at least amusing. I do not understand how people can get excited about her without feeling like utter jackasses. I mean, "fuck the pain away" is supposed to be one of her best songs, right? I turned that shit off halfway through when it dawned on me that no, it wasn't going to get better. It just kept being…the same. I have heard/read that fucking “sucking on my titties like he wanted me” lyric quoted so many times which always kinda baffled me cuz like, um, is it that good? Now I understand that people must quote it all the time because that’s all there is to quote. I can’t comment on peaches’ live show as I have been invited by friends to go see her on many occasions, but have always politely declined.

2. I am so out of the music loop that I didn’t know there was a peaches/le tigre connection. of course there’s a peaches/le tigre connection. Why does there need to be a whole genre of “radical” underachieving white girl “hip hop influenced” remedial electronica? I could go off on how much I’ve grown to despise le tigre for longer than I can on peaches cuz I’m more familiar with their oeuvre, but it would probably be redundant.

3. I hate the sex radicals but the sex radicals (or the aspiring ones, anyway) love me. Everyone can use another special “sex worker” friend. and don't even get me started on strap-ons.

This comment is truncated as I was interrupted by my new rodent problem and I need to go collapse from exhaustion now.
From: [identity profile] capn-jil.livejournal.com
man, now i feel totally unhip for enjoying le tigre. i thought kathleen hanna had just gotten bored of screaming to guitars and decided screaming to beatboxes would be more 21st century or something..

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